on entitlements, medicare and medicaid and social security and we cannot fix it by attacking discretionary spending. that is the easy thing and it is conve convenient and when we talk about political leadership we need it and we need specificity and what we ought to do in the next few weeks is get a down payment that gets us into next year and then have a thoughtful discussion about how we make the tax code more competitive and lower the corporate rate from 35 to 25% and broaden the base and do the things that will put us on a trajectory of growing, and consumers start to pull back, now we are talking about 70% of the economy is consumption and if they pull back and start to save, we are talking the paradox of thrift and people don't spend at a time we need them to spend and going off the falls in a barrel, the fiscal cliff without a barrel would be a disaster and people say, we could do it and we'll have leverage politically, it would be a terrible idea and we'd be back in recession and consumers wouldn't spend, big mistake. >> chris: mr. sweeney, finally, less than a minute left. if we g